Thanks for keeping the info coming Chris.   While we all help our children learn to make choices now in hopes of them making good decisions when we're no longer with them, I wanted to share the following thanks with you. The reality is that I will not live to see my children in their self-supporting years, though I still hope and pray for a treatment/cure to be found.  The comfort that I have in knowing that my husband  has these skills to use to  continue to guide our boys whenever the day comes I'm no longer here with them is beyond measure. Thank you for your role in bringing the Love & Logic techniques/info to us.  We have a long way to go and need to be consistent, but find what we do use very helpful.